Monday, August 4

You might be interested in this listing of how various dioceses voted in the Robinson vote on Sunday.

By the way, someone complimented me in a comment on being interested in this. How can I not? It's a watershed for all Christian churches, not just the Anglican communion. I may be Roman Catholic, but my MA is in religion from Vanderbilt Divinity School, and my MA thesis had nothing to do with Catholicism (it was on the debates over women's role in 19th century American Protestant churches, most particularly on the uses of Scripture in the debates), and I'm just jazzed by religion generally, especially when the issues at hand drive us back to historical considerations.

Eve's suggestions to Andrew

David has much to say on related topics; just scroll down

Was JFK's legacy an "unfortunate" one for Catholic politicians?

According to, 144 members of the 107th Congress identified themselves as Catholic: 15 Democrats and 9 Republicans in the Senate, and 71 Democrats and 42 Republicans in the House of Representatives.
In a political scorecard measuring the voting records from the 107th Congress, the homosexual activist Human Rights Campaign gave all 15 Senate Democrats, one Republican senator, 61 House Democrats and 2 House Republicans perfect or near perfect scores for siding with homosexuals in legislative votes.
,p>"This is all part of the unfortunate legacy of John F. Kennedy, who perhaps paid too high an admission price to enter the race for the presidency in 1960 by basically telling people that he would never bring his religious values into American public life," C.J. Doyle, executive director of the Massachusetts Catholic Action League told Friday. "Looking back on it, the election of Kennedy in some ways represented the empowerment of the Catholic elite but a defeat for Catholic values."

Doyle said when politicians say they are not going to let the Church tell them what to do, it really means that interest groups, media institutions and the "big money campaign contributors that make their careers possible" will call the shots for them instead."When they say that they're deeply concerned about the separation of church and state, what that really means is that they're going to do exactly what the polls tell them to do. The response of the vast majority of politicians in this case is going to be both cynical and cowardly, and intellectually dishonest," Doyle said. "It isn't that our politicians have the wrong principles, it's that as a class, elected politicians, including Catholic politicians, have no principles. As a class, they are self-serving careerists."

The blogger from the Episcopal General Convention discusses yesterday's vote and briefly summarizes each statement by delegates speaking for or against approving the election of Robinson as bishop. Interesting reading.

Cardinal George objects to newspaper headline; editors defend


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